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EVPs Vs Ouija is there a difference????
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Ghostman



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: EVPs Vs Ouija is there a difference???? Reply with quote

YOU decide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! let us know what you think , and listen to the show to here the hot topic discussions ...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh you had to go there didn't you??!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course he did Nathan... that's one of Shaun's favorite topics... ouija vs. EVP.

My personal thought - they are one in the same..... in both situations you are asking questions... wanting/expecting answers.... what is the difference between a piece of wood with a planchette and a microphone?!?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the main difference between the two is that a Ouija board is so easy to fake even when with a group of people present. EVP can also be faked but is more difficult to do when you have 6 other people standing there recording at the same time.

I think the only way I could be impressed with a Ouija board is that if it is was set up in closed room with a video camera pointed at it and the planchette moved on its own and spelled out words.

With both methods you are asking "whoever" may be there to speak with you and you ask questions, so no difference there.

Have I "played" with a Ouija board before.. Yes. Have I ever had a bad experience with a Ouija board.. No.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well here the problem with people that have no experiances with a oujia board. they go into it with a doubt in their mind that it won't work. if you go into any setting like that you will not get anything or something may feed off your negitive energy and make it a horrible experiance. but if you get a group of people that know it works and have no doubt, it's of the the best times you could ever ask for.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What it comes down to me is that when you are asking for evp the recorder is the tool. When you are using Ouija board, you are the tool. The board doesn’t matter, if you think of it as automatic writing. The paper isn’t evil. It’s the danger of something using you. By asking for evp, you are not letting something go though you, or at least you shouldn’t be.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't really agree that you are the tool or being use when you use an oujia board. there are some protective tecniques you can use to protect yourself from harm and in saying that make yourself more receptive to it. as long as you control that situation. for instance i was messing around with the oujia board and a spirit tried to make a portal out of my board. all i had to do was tell it to stop. simple enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had some good times with the Ouija board and I agree that they are one in the same as far as purpose. However, I can't count the Ouija board as reliable because of the fact that it can be EASILY faked. What's the biggest blunder of any project? Human error. As Nathan said, the Ouija is more human tool oriented. I'm more fascinated by what my digital recorder would pick up than what my shaky hands would jerk to.
I still had great times with the Ouija board and believe it is a powerful thing if used as such, but EVP is more exciting to me than Ouija.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not saying that i would use a oujia board in an investigation. I'll admit i have, but that was because something told me to bring it along. its good for those spirits that are just to shy to have there voices be heard. yes it can be faked and all that good stuff. but it would just have to come down to. do you trust the people you play with?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yed wrote:
i don't really agree that you are the tool or being use when you use an oujia board. there are some protective tecniques you can use to protect yourself from harm and in saying that make yourself more receptive to it. as long as you control that situation. for instance i was messing around with the oujia board and a spirit tried to make a portal out of my board. all i had to do was tell it to stop. simple enough.


True, but as Shaun likes to say that 9 out of 10 houses he investigated had move evp if the people had used a Ouija board, I have also noticed 6 out of 10 malevolent hauntings I have worked on have started with,
“We were using a Ouija board, but we were doing every thing to protect our selves.”
Well apparently not.
But hey, that's just me.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i don't really know the whole situation that let to the more evp at locations that had ouija. but i can speculate that it is mainly because the forget that until you tell a spirit that they are no longer welcome in your home. chances are the are more likely to set up shop right their. i'd say that the 9 out of 10 times the people playing got freaked out and forgot to tell it to leave (that's what the good-bye is for at the bottom of the board) and the spirit figured "well they didn't tell me to leave so im not going too." can't prove none of this but i have never had anything stay when i told it to leave. harmful or other.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love those fanatical ones who claim the Ouija is pure evil and go to the point of threats and belittling to stop people from using them. Actually, no matter what you get through it or if you believe it works purely through the subconscience or purely through spiritualism, it has been used for good. What about the early 60's and 70's psychotherapies?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a "spirit" or whatever has enough energy or gumption to move a planchett on a board, why not just pick up a pencil and write something out?

I dunno ... just seems a lot easier to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because the idea is that it is using you energy to do it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These theories are really good, but I for one believe that neither the Ouija or the recorders used for EVP can pose a threat, I do believe the threat of possession or haunting is a real thing, but I dont believe that the Ouija or anything alikeells, can harm the living. I believe that both the Ouija or the evp practice is the same .
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